Comments on: Like a ‘Sorry’ in the Sky http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/ Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:01:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Steve http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/#comment-1416 Steve Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:57:02 +0000 http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/?p=266#comment-1416 Should white Australians apologise to black Australians? who knows? I remember as a kid getting kicked out of a corner shop where I grew up for being "black".. in fact I was just well tanned! Even in the last week some have inquired of my heritage (except that it was convict.. the fellow was sentenced to 7 years in Botany Bay for being nearby when someone was mugged, and being on a ship that had switched flags 3 times during the American revolutionary war).. I guess I should apologise... I think someone on their ship brought the flu to Australia.. and that wiped out the majority of first citizens... I guess that is worth apologising over.. the accidental demiose of the vast majority of original owners through disease. Though, how does one apologise when truly these folks had no idea of the effect of the flu bug? It was not willful homicide. And yes, having lived in an area where the majority of masacres occurred (the New England) there are times where white's were very culpable... I understand that the goverment of the day addressed and convicted those who took paret in those massacres. Do we apologise for something the government of the day already punished? Personally I think the issues are more complicated than a simple "sorry" can accommodate. Should the government apologise to the convicts made to settle here under false imprisonment laws? oh hold on.. it wasn't the Australian Govt that made the mistake, it was the British Govt, and most of the soldiers sent out were as much prisoners as the convicts (no one to marry, no way to get home). The only thing I feel any compulsion to apologise for is that a fella bearing the same surname as mine inflicted Australia with the rum rebellion. Now for that I am truly sorry. How do we feel sorry for something we did not and would not have participated in? :) sorry to throw the cat among the pigeon's.. Steve Should white Australians apologise to black Australians?
who knows? I remember as a kid getting kicked out of a corner shop where I grew up for being “black”.. in fact I was just well tanned!
Even in the last week some have inquired of my heritage (except that it was convict.. the fellow was sentenced to 7 years in Botany Bay for being nearby when someone was mugged, and being on a ship that had switched flags 3 times during the American revolutionary war).. I guess I should apologise… I think someone on their ship brought the flu to Australia.. and that wiped out the majority of first citizens… I guess that is worth apologising over.. the accidental demiose of the vast majority of original owners through disease. Though, how does one apologise when truly these folks had no idea of the effect of the flu bug? It was not willful homicide.
And yes, having lived in an area where the majority of masacres occurred (the New England) there are times where white’s were very culpable… I understand that the goverment of the day addressed and convicted those who took paret in those massacres. Do we apologise for something the government of the day already punished?
Personally I think the issues are more complicated than a simple “sorry” can accommodate. Should the government apologise to the convicts made to settle here under false imprisonment laws? oh hold on.. it wasn’t the Australian Govt that made the mistake, it was the British Govt, and most of the soldiers sent out were as much prisoners as the convicts (no one to marry, no way to get home).
The only thing I feel any compulsion to apologise for is that a fella bearing the same surname as mine inflicted Australia with the rum rebellion. Now for that I am truly sorry.

How do we feel sorry for something we did not and would not have participated in? :) sorry to throw the cat among the pigeon’s..
Steve

]]> By: echoofthedesert http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/#comment-1410 echoofthedesert Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:46:53 +0000 http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/?p=266#comment-1410 Here in the U.S. the government also did the same, formally apologizing to the black populatation for all the years of slavery. After the same debate you describe, which by the way did make it into our newspapers. The black people did not retaliate for the apology. Sorry may not make for restitution but it can do no damage and certainly som good. I enjoyed your rant. Thanks. Here in the U.S. the government also did the same, formally apologizing to the black populatation for all the years of slavery.
After the same debate you describe, which by the way did make it into our newspapers. The black people did not retaliate for the apology. Sorry may not make for restitution but it can do no damage and certainly som good.
I enjoyed your rant. Thanks.

]]> By: Islandsparrow http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/#comment-1409 Islandsparrow Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:57:09 +0000 http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/?p=266#comment-1409 restitution there's a better word than sorry restitution

there’s a better word than sorry

]]> By: John Dekker http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/#comment-1408 John Dekker Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:50:26 +0000 http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/?p=266#comment-1408 "Sorry" is just an expression of one's feelings, and so it doesn't mean much. It's not the same as confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness. As Jay Adams says, there is nothing in the Bible about apologising. See <a href="http://woodruffroad.com/tt_forgiveness.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>. “Sorry” is just an expression of one’s feelings, and so it doesn’t mean much. It’s not the same as confessing, repenting and seeking forgiveness. As Jay Adams says, there is nothing in the Bible about apologising. See here.

]]> By: Rebecca http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/2008/01/28/dreams-like-a-sorry-in-the-sky/#comment-1406 Rebecca Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:26:20 +0000 http://regainingparadise.wordpress.com/?p=266#comment-1406 I don't know what sorry should look like. My church formally apologized to Canadian native people a few years back for the damages done by residential schools - and the native people politely did not accept the apology. I don't know if things can be fixed, if old wrongs can be righted. I just hope that we can learn from history and not cause more harm. I don’t know what sorry should look like.
My church formally apologized to Canadian native people a few years back for the damages done by residential schools - and the native people politely did not accept the apology. I don’t know if things can be fixed, if old wrongs can be righted. I just hope that we can learn from history and not cause more harm.

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